Please explain why you support or do not support Obamacare?

Please explain why you support or do not support Obamacare?

Don'-t be afraid to go into detail. I am trying to form a straight opinion myself.


I support Obamacare because it takes health insurance away from the hands of the evil, greedy, monoplozing insurance companies. Anything that puts them under the eight ball is fine with me. There are two or three major companies that have taken over health ins, and feel they can do whatever they want at the insurees' expense.


"Obamacare" is basically the same program as Medicare & Medicaid, just extended to ALL Americans instead of just the poor, the elderly, the unemployed & the handicapped...personally I approve, but I support other people's right NOT to approve if that's how they feel.However, anyone who does NOT support "Obamacare" yet is not also calling for an immediate end to Medicare & Medicaid is either an idiot or a hypocrite...Source(s):(Most of the language in the Health Care Reform Bill was lifted directly from the Medicare Bill passed in 1965)

We are a country of 300 million people. Some of us are fat, some are thin - some are sexually active and need birth control, others are not, or they have had vasectomies or are gay- some are very healthy and feel they need less coverage, others prefer to have "Health Savings Accounts" to pay for minor procedures out of pocket and have their insurance pay for only catastrophic illnesses. Some families have lots of children, and need a lot of primary care for colds, other minor illnesses and injuries.We are all different. When the government tries to mash up a single system of coverage that will suit everyone, no one gets what they want. Everyone has to compromise, and when we express our desires, wants and needs, the result is anger, hatred, name calling and accusations.Just look at all of this chaos surrounding Sandra Fluke and her testimony before Congress.In my opinion, if Sandra Fluke wants to have a policy that covers birth control, she should be able to have it - with no questions asked, no argument, no struggle, and certainly no criticism from radio hosts.On the other hand, if Georgetown Law, a Jesuit Institution, wants to voluntarily offer a health benefit plan for their students, they should be able to decide on the plan that fits their budget and that follows their philosophy.The only way to accomplish this is in the free market. When insurance companies are not allowed to compete across state lines, that is not a free market. When the government gives large tax breaks to corporations for providing health insurance, but no benefit to individuals who wish to buy it, that is not a free market. When the government begins to mandate what benefits are, and what benefits are not payable, and who has to own what kind of policy, that is not a free market.They would have you believe that without this kind of regulation, the big insurance companies would just not pay for anything - and I say there is nothing further from the truth. If more competition were allowed, insurance companies would find their niche, and compete heavily for their business. If companies thought they could make more money by denying coverage, they would be out of business quickly, with their competition taking up the slack.This happened in the car insurance industry in New Jersey - before 2003, there was heavy government control over what auto insurers had to cover. There were many mandates, and everyone had to follow a model that was set out by the government. The result was that very few companies could or would do business in NJ- when I lived there we had about three choices - "very expensive", "extremely expensive" and "off the charts". We watched all the Geico commercials and the State Farm commercials offering different kinds of coverage and lower premiums, but all of them had the tag line, "Not available in New Jersey".In 2003, there was reform. The mandates were lifted. Insurance companies flocked to do business in New Jersey - each had their own take on how to gain market share. Geico offered a discount for a client with a Masters degree. State Farm offered a discount for more than one car. Another company offered a stepwise deductible that decreased with every year of a clean record, ending up with rebates after a certain time. Some offered high collision, some offered higher liability - but all were VERY INEXPENSIVE. The high-priced boys were priced out of the market.That's what competition does - it FORCES companies to run lean operations, to offer excellent service and low prices, and to be very creative about designing a product that fits the market.Obamacare does the opposite. It creates ONE system that we all have to abide by. We have to pay for benefits for others who have different lifestyles than we do. We are told to expect others to pay for our lifestyles. We argue, we fight, we get sucked into class warfare, religious warfare, arguments of racism, ageism, sexism.If Sandra Fluke could have had the opportunity to read over Georgetown's policy and say, "Well, this doesn't cover what I need ... I think I'll just get the Blue Cross plan instead" for the same money, the entirety of last month would never have happened. No Rush Limbaugh, no dragging Bill Maher back into it, no Obama apologies, no rancor on this site - just a different choice.That's why I'm against it.


Don't forget the fact that the government is putting a monetary maximum for medicare. Once you hit that limit you get no more health care. Even Bawney Fwank came out against it last month.THIS is the death panels people tried to warn against. How many liberal would be for the maximum limit if it included medicaid. Guess it is alright to cut off healthcare for the elderly, but not for those that spend a lifetime on medicaid.


The single biggest problem we have in labor disputes is medical coverage of existing employees and the exploding costs to cover pensioners.Medical costs are destroying this country and there are no controls in place.Universal healthcare would be ideal but that isn't what we are getting. It IS a step in the right direction because at least we will be able to funnel the poor away from the ER in low cost doctor offices (clinics)Either way you look at it we are going to be paying for medical care... the question is are we going to be inefficient and greedy ("I don't want to pay for anyone else but I want top notch care for myself and my family") or will we be practical about things since we are ALREADY paying for medical care for the poor.@ Eric - waiting lists are the result of limited availability of doctors and has ZERO to do with the way payments are processed. You might not realize this but there ARE waiting lists for medical care happening everyday in the US depending on location and what kind of doctor is needed. In fact we have the added complication of insurance companies dictating what kind of procedures are going to be done based not on availability but on costs.Response to Eric ... wanting the best care for yourself today even if you are working and paying for insurance does not mean you will be able to get that same care next year. In fact insurance companies tend to give that best care to people that don't really need it and if you end up needing something expensive AND long term then they do their very best to cancel your policy. You might not think it will ever happen to you... until it does.


I think we earned it. The people did all the work and a few get all the money. Only the government is powerful enough to get some redress for grievances. They need to do something. That's what we pay them for. Right now we are thirty something in the world in health care and education. Some things only the government can do like military. Do we really want to privatize everything so only a few have everything? I sure don't. It's bad enough now. I've check out all that Ayn Rand philosophy and it's flawed. Too much capitalism is like too much anything. It turns back to bite you. We have to be balance and I don't know any other way to get balance back into capitalism. Imo honesty used to make up the difference, but that seems to be down the drain now and I see we are dealing with a bunch of crooks in these multinational corporations.


Because he is forcing us to do what he & his friends want. If you do not see this you are one of them


I have been to VA hospitals and Medical facilities around the world. That is exactly what you will get. If you want to know for yourself then either go to a SS office or Post Office and imagine those people being the person who decieds if you get to see a doctor. Please read this-The money obama wants to distribute as charity is stolen and not his to give (read "Not Yours to Give" Dave Crockett)I thought the state of the union speech 1-24-12 was a magic show where the King stood up and talked out of his *** for about an hour. HOORAH!!!!!!!!!!!!check this out-Ron Paul is for the US Constitution and against the neo-conservative / socialist movements that are more commonly referred to as Republican and Democrat parties. Modern elections are all about buying votes with money stolen from the national treasury or campaign contributions given in return for special favors. Think I'm wrong? Why don't you read the US Constitution and an essay about Col Dave Crockett, "Not Yours to Give."?Both MSM parties (republicans and democrats) are heavily reliant on emotion. (the voters are a jury that has proven to be incapable of making logical decisions)I look up bills on I can also see the bill sponsors and voting record of senate and congress.At least w/ SOPA King B Hussein Obama will not need to sit and wait w/ his internet kill switch. It will be done automatically. In addition please consider this-FEMA camps and NDAA are the real thing. (just like an Orwellian Utopia) You'll be gettin' the eff out of dodge to avoid some kind of urban uprising because of a disaster or emergency and about 30 or 40 miles out of town traffic will stop. Military stormtroopers will walk through stopped traffic and warn people to stay in their cars. When you get to the roadblock ahead you will be told to get out of your car (leave your keys and belongings in the car and DO NOT bring any weapons.) Then you will wait in a holding area for a bus and go to one of their internment facilities for in-processing. Hopefully you will not get to play any of their games (waterboarding, solitary confinement, etc) But don't worry, 6 fully staffed waterboards means you won't have a long line to wait in.NDAA (just signed into law by Barack Hussein Obama) will be used to authorize the whole thing, Did you read the book or see the movie "1984"? That's what it is. It allows any federal agency to declare an emergency and use the military forces to impose martial law. What they are doing in the mid east (door to door searches without warrants or any due process whatsoever) is only a rehearsal of what they have in store for us here. This is an article I wrote for another section.Do the police need a warrant to search me or my property? Under aspects of the US Constitution, all persons are protected from unwarranted searches and any other form of arbitrary harassment. Unfortunately modern courts have misinterpreted the intentions of the founding fathers who authored the US Constitution and Bill of Rights to give the police the power at their discretion to use "probable cause." Police should not be allowed to lawfully act on suspicions or whims, and any action against any person should be deemed unconstitutional. This also includes any electronic surveillance such as wiretaps, directional mics, etc. Of course under aspects of the "Patriot Act" they will claim that it is to protect us from terrorists. They also claim that states need to implement a REAL ID program so that sheeple can be digitally mapped for easy identification to once again... protect us from terrorists. Meanwhile, the southern border is wide open to basically let in whoever wants to come for whatever reason.The fact is this- the enforcement of drug and firearm prohibition has allowed the government to turn this country into a pig powered police state and everyday it is becoming more and more like the USSR. You might like all of this "protection" but personally I prefer to protect myself. If you are the kind of person that wants to give up your liberty for security then please go somewhere else like China or N Korea.Source(s):HR 504 (died in session but it will return) HR 1540 (NDAA 2012) signed into law 12-31-2011 by King B. Hussein Obama


Health care was inexpensive till government State an Federal 40 years ago started imposing many rules ,regulation,an mandates.Now comes along BHO care his solution to the problem was a 2,700 pages of more mandates an regulation.An no one knows how much a month it will be .The more insurance company's cover the more it costs.


I support the courage of any President who had the balls to tackle a hot potato issue that has been kicked down the road by every American President since Nixon. Do I think Obamacare is perfect, no I don't but I appreciate him going out on the limb and dealing with the issue and giving us his best rendition of what it should be.If his competitors have such a problem with it, then they should have beat him to the punch on the issue, they hesitated and he seized the moment and won, get over it!


ity is a finacial fact that americans pay about TWICE what other countries do for essentially the same careAs a matter of fact America is listed far down on measures of public health such has child careWe have the worlds's greatest care FOR THOSE WHO CAN AFFORD ITbut the payment system is screwed up beyond beliefhas any fire insurance company EVER PUT OUT a fire?Has any "health insurance co" ever cured any oneillness and healthcare is a universal risk it takes universal shared payment to cover it.Just because Canada has government Medical care and some waiting lists does NOT mean America would have that system.Source(s):70, has had medicare after my empoyment insurance ended. worked for improved payment syatems for the last 30 years.


Most peoples opinions are based on their political beliefs (dem or rep), mine is for different reasons. Im not really on board. My reasoning is based off the Canadian healthcare system. from the outside, Canadian healthcare seems great, everybody gets covered, you just show up and get treated.I happen to have Canadian family members. I also happen to have a disability that requires specialists (its not that bad of a disability). In Canada, you have to be put on waiting lists for important surgeries, tests and care. Minor colds and flues are easily treated, but when something major pops up, you are at the mercy of the waiting list. The Canadian healthcare system can be compared to Kaiser, Kaiser isnt horrible, but it is lacking... severely.The above is not an opinion, its a fact. Below is an opinion.I wonder if future specialists and scientists would be as motivated to enter the medical fields if the financial incentives were not there like they are today. What motivates a specialist to become a specialist? The god complex and the money (Ive dealt with numerous specialists). Take the money out and what do you have? Individuals are rewarded handsomely for developing ground breaking techniques and drugs, take the financial rewards away and what do you have? We take for granted that people will still enter the fields and be motivated to do what their predecessors have done in the last few hundred years.I really dont know if the financial rewards will be removed with Obama care, it sure seems like we are leaning towards a more Socialist system in regards to healthcare, that personally scares me for the above reasons.@Drixnot, I personally would want the best healthcare for my family over a stranger I never met, if that makes me greedy, Im the greediest person on the face of the planet.@Drixnot you said "waiting lists are the result of limited availability of doctors and has ZERO to do with the way payments are processed.". OK, so, read the opinion section of my comment, if my opinion is correct, then I believe I have a reason to worry about waiting lists.


Here are the two main reasons why I do not support it (let the thumbs down from the Obama drones begin).1. It was authored by insurance companies.2. The mandate that forces every American to buy their product.Watch the PBS documentary Obama's Deal. You will see (from interviews with people from both sides that were there, on the front line) how to get the support of the insurance companies and pharmaceutical companies he allowed them to write it and put the mandate in.If Lobbyists from the auto industry wrote a bill that forced EVERY American to buy a new car every year, would you support it?*EDIT* In Response to the third answer, no, it is not just like medicaid or medicare. It is NOT a single payer system. Oh, and since it has been passed, this bill that was going to lower the cost of health care has caused EVERY major insurance company to raise their rates.



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